#438 The Link Between Minerals, Emotions & Fatigue with Hope Pedraza, FDN-P

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You’re eating well, taking the supplements, and following the protocols. So why are your labs still showing burnout? Why do symptoms keep coming back?

This week I’m joined by Hope Pedraza, FDN-P. We unpack the deeper layers behind recurring symptoms, mineral imbalances, and why your nervous system might be the real reason nothing sticks. We talk about how emotional stress shows up on lab work, what a calcium shell actually means, and how subconscious patterns can drain your energy no matter how healthy your habits are.

We also get into how tools like human design can reveal what’s out of alignment and how to finally stop relapsing into the same burnout cycles.

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KEY TAKEAWAYS
• Minerals reflect more than diet
• Burnout starts with misalignment
• Emotions impact detox and hormones
• A calcium shell = emotional shutdown
• Worthiness wounds drive depletion
• Human design shows energy leaks

ABOUT GUEST:
Hope Pedraza is a Functional Diagnostic Nutrition Practitioner, Human Design Guide, Clinical Hypnotherapist, and host of the Hopeful and Wholesome podcast. She helps high-performing, spiritually curious women optimize their energy, rebalance their nervous system, and reconnect with their body’s wisdom so they can scale their business and life without burnout. Her signature method blends functional labs, Human Design embodiment, and subconscious reprogramming to create sustainable radiance from the inside out.

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: we can't expect the body to heal running on the same operating system that where the symptoms showed up.

Like it doesn't make logical sense. We have to reprogram the operating system. We have to decondition, we have to shift the patterns, rewire, all of those things. 

[00:00:14] Christa Biegler, RD: I'm your host Christa Biegler, and I'm going to guess we have at least one thing in common that we're both in pursuit of a less stressed life. On the show, I'll be interviewing experts and sharing clinical pearls from my years of practice to support high performing health savvy women in pursuit of abundance and a less stressed life.

One of my beliefs is that we always have options for getting the results we want. So let's see what's out there together.

Alright, today on the Less Stressed Life, I have Hope Pedraza, who's a functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner, a human design guide, a clinical hypnotherapist, and host of the Hopeful and wholesome podcast. She helps high performing, spiritually curious women optimize their energy, rebalance their nervous system, and reconnect with their body's wisdom so they can scale their business and life without burnout.

Her signature method blends, functional labs, human design, embodiment. And subconscious reprogramming to create sustainable radiance from the inside out. Welcome to the show, hope. 

[00:01:36] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Thanks Christa. I'm excited to be here with you. 

[00:01:38] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, so hope has a myriad of things that we may cover today a little bit from this mineral perspective, which is a physical perspective, and then what's going on with emotional energetics.

And I mention this every so often on the show that I'd like. To consider issues through this lens of a health triad, right? So one corner is nutritional chemical, one corner is maybe structural or environmental, and another corner is emotional, energetic. So it's cool because she is fusing this. That's the exception Instead of the rule you really have to go outside of yourself and pull things together.

So I'd love to hear, first of all how this happened, why you are combining all of these things. Tell us a little bit about your story personally or professionally, and how these things started to come together overall for you. 

[00:02:27] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah. So my journey, which I think similar to yours, kinda started at the physical level, right?

I had a ton of gut issues growing up and. As I got older, I started, reading and educating myself and basically just kinda figured out how to help with my really severe IBS stuff. And so it started as a physical thing and I was like hardcore vegan for 10 years and that's for whatever reason, that's what worked for me.

And that's saying everybody needs to do that, but that's what worked for me for my gut and I healed my IBS and allergies and all these things. And so I felt the effects of that. And then as I went into. My twenties and later I was recognizing like, okay, I've done all this stuff to help my gut, but then I'm recognizing there's still some things off.

And when I was going through my functional practitioner. Training and, do all the labs myself. And that was a really big wake up call for me because felt like I was a really healthy person. Like I'm doing all the things, I'm, the diet, the supplements, all the things. And my adrenals were like in the toilet.

Like I like so bad. There's things that showed up on my gut labs and I'm like, what the heck? I've done all this stuff to my gut. So I'm seeing like, okay, I feel quote unquote fine. I feel like I'm a healthy person. But there's all these things that are still. Evident like happening in my body. And so that was the tipping point for me.

And at the same time, I was on my own like spiritual journey and working on like emotions and energetics and all the things. And so I was recognizing like, okay, I see now that there are patterns. Playing like in my subconscious thoughts, beliefs, all the things. And there has to be this connection to why I'm feeling, the way I'm feeling, why I am like in full on adrenal burnout at the moment.

And I need to get to the bottom of it. So that was when all the pieces for me started to come together. I had. Just started diving into human design and that was like a big aha awakening moment for me and studying that part of myself and then diving into the subconscious re programming and all those energetic pieces.

So really the reason that I pulled all these things together and the work that I do is just from my own journey and recognizing that there are a lot of pieces missing when we're only looking at the physical body. And if we really wanna get to the quote unquote root cause, like I use that word a lot, right?

You can't compartmentalize yourself. We can't separate it into the body and the mind and the emotions and it you have to put all those pieces together and that's the only holistic is a word that I don't love to use, but for lack of a better word, like whole, like putting the whole equation together.

And looking at yourself holistically. You have to put all those pieces together. 

[00:04:50] Christa Biegler, RD: I think this is an important conversation for us to have, because I was smiling because I remember being in denial about my adrenal burnout. I remember getting one test and being like, oh. Interesting. Not sure if that's accurate.

And then a different test. Like I feel fine. Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is that there's a lot of high achievers operating through life and doing a really good job at doing well enough, or shoving that under the rug or just putting it in the closet because you gotta keep going.

Yep. And there's a lot of. Worthiness and tying our worth to productivity that starts to stem or fuel that. And I know you'd like to talk about that, so can you chat a little bit about where this might be coming from for us as these high performing, high achieving women. 

[00:05:34] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah, I agree with you.

And that was my experience as well, where I was like, this can't be right. This can't be but then, looking hindsight recognized oh, this is why I'm getting sick all the time. Why I was getting injured all the time. Why was like, there's all these things that started adding up and the worthiness.

Piece. I have a whole series of my podcasts that I did earlier this year on this because it was something that kept coming up over and over again with the women that I work with. And it was something that I had this huge revelation with a couple years ago that this was the driving factor for so much of what was going on in my body.

Why my adrenals were like, oh, like hanging off for dear life and why I was experiencing these things over and over again. And I had this epiphany that my worth was tied to my productivity. It was tied to my output. It was tied to all these things of me doing and accomplishing and right. And I think, yeah, I talked about this yesterday on a podcast actually I feel like.

Women, we have this collective core wound and that this is what it is. We can talk about generational trauma or however you wanna talk about it, but we've gone generations and generations of women's only worth producing humans usually. That's the only worth that we had was, oh, you can make babies.

And that was the only thing that women were good for. And so I think that we all carry that in our DNA. We all carry that in ourselves. And yes, there are. Conditions in the world, socially, culturally, that enforce this. But it's also like it's in ourselves. Like we're also born with it. And then it just gets reinforced the older we get and the more we are a part of society.

And so I think that I really feel like, I dare say all women have this commonality and it might show up differently. Some people are people pleasers and some people are over givers and some people are like hardcore do whatever. Like it shows up differently. But it all for me. In my experience, it all comes down to that worthiness piece.

And our worth is tied to all these things, whether it's, fear of disappointing people or hurting people's feelings, or sharing our emotions, being too big, being too small. Like all of this comes down to worthiness issues and it affects us at a cellular level and it's affecting us on a physical level.

There's, so it's the driving factor for so many physical things going on in a woman's body. 

[00:07:43] Christa Biegler, RD: I couldn't agree more. I use this coaching model in practice, and people don't really come in and say, I feel unworthy. Exactly. That's not what they're gonna say. But it's just like it's under the hood of how we're doing everything for everyone else, or we have to finish the dishes before we could even rest.

You're in your rest. Yeah. Exactly. Those pieces and i, that was the same commonality I was finding as well. But people don't necessarily come in and say that. And I think also this actually goes against our biology in a sense because I. Pouring out is very masculine, right?

Doing all the things we're very capable. Yes. I would dare say we're a very capable gender, and so a lot gets put on our plate, right? One, we're producing children, but then as we come into the workforce, we're doing all of it and more. Yeah. Plus all of the other volunteering and but I think we have to remind ourselves that the divine feminine is.

Receiving. 

[00:08:35] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Receiving. Yeah. It 

[00:08:36] Christa Biegler, RD: is not pouring out. And that is I don't know I think it stopped me in my tracks at one point. But all of this starts to you brought up, human design. I loved Enneagram for such a long time, and I have Enneagram three an achiever, right? And so it's however you must see yourself if you feel like you love to be productive, this might be a little like, how is that showing up in your life?

Yeah. And so I wanna ask you next, I think burnout is such a cool. Interesting, appropriate topic to talk about all the time because you know , see different stats it's that like most people are burned out at some point or at any given point. And so I wanna talk about what burnout is, where it starts and overcoming it, which I know is a really big topic, but I just wanna give a little bit of life to burnout because that's really what we are talking.

That's how I think of physical manifestation is like your adrenals. We've been pushing on the gas for so long and we're compensating so much, and then at some point we're gonna run out of gas or minerals and nutrients to operate that. So let's talk about, however you wanna frame burnout.

Where do you think that starts in general in our lives? What kind of dissonance is happening? How does it start to unravel and then what does it look like? 

[00:09:47] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah I think. I think the big misconception people have about burnout is that it's doing too much. That's how people burnout is they do too much.

But the fact is that it's not about how much you're doing, it's how you're doing it really. Is what it's doing things that are misaligned. It's doing things in a misaligned way. 'cause there is one side of this where I can do things that I'm really passionate about and excited about, and I could work from Sun up to sundown and be really excited about it.

Go to bed, sleep great. Wake up the next day, feel great about it because it's aligned for me. And it's something I'm excited about and it's something I'm lit up about. There's another way of doing it where I'm pushing and forcing myself to do something that I said yes to, that I didn't really wanna say yes to, and it's going against every boundary that I've set, and I'm right.

That's a misaligned way to do it. You wake up the next day and you feel terrible because you're doing it in misaligned energy. So it's not about how much we're doing. It's how we're doing it and the energy we're doing it in. It's doing mis taking, misaligned action. And so I think, which is one of the reasons I love bringing human design into the work that I do, because it allows women to understand how their energy is designed to work so they can make these more empowered decisions about, setting boundaries, how I'm working in my business or my career, my family, et cetera.

And I can take these actions in an aligned way that I know is going to be. In alignment with my energy and how my energy is meant to flow, how my energy is meant to operate, and I'm not sacrificing myself in the process. And for me that's what burnout is, and it's your body. Our bodies always know when we're taking action in a misaligned way.

It's just whether we choose to listen to it or not. We know the feeling of like heaviness or. Contraction or restriction in the body when we're doing something that's not aligned for us. Whether you use that language or not, maybe you say it in a different way. So we know, but, and eventually that's what catches up to us.

That's when we start to drain our adrenals and our hormones. And our minerals and all these things. 'cause your body, there's all these energetic leaks. 'cause we're doing things in a misaligned way and. It's literally sucking the life force out of you. And that for me, I wanna be able to help women understand this energetic piece.

So there's like this free flow of life force energy rather than all these leaks everywhere. 

[00:11:54] Christa Biegler, RD: I wanna talk a little bit about human design, and I will say that I feel like there's a lot to unpack there. So I don't know how far deep we can get, but before that, I wanna give a little bit more tangible example to misaligned energy.

And I was thinking as you were talking for an example, I'd love for you to give an example too. And I was thinking about how this might show up for someone. So really potentially. Resonant one that might show up for someone is dreading the next workday because you've got X, Y, Z going on. And I think that there, life is not a hundred, like it's not a hundred percent perfect, it's 50 50.

So there will be some things you don't wanna do, but it's just the fact of is that the majority? Not the majority is the first question to me. And so it's if the majority of the days are like that's when it's really out of balance. More. If it's more sucking, it's more out of balance. And actually, I think sometimes we have this misunderstanding of that we'd have to change our job or change the circumstance or change where we live or the relationship before we can be in alignment.

And that may or may not be true, but there might be some things to figure out before that. So I remember having this. We, I think we go through this regardless. I think one of the things of being an entrepreneur is sometimes. Creating, inventing solving problems. And so last year I was forced to look at I don't like the way these things are happening in business specifically.

When people feel like they don't understand what they're doing long term, right? Where they feel like they need to rely on a practitioner long term that's really disempowering and not really lending to autonomy. And that was a problem. I was like, I don't like this thing. And another one, I'll give another example.

Of where I had to make some changes as well is I could do mineral testing and I could see your adrenal's burned out, and I could see you feeling better when you start to replete them, but I could see that you're still depleted without changing these emotions and energetics. And so anyway, I bring this up because when I restructured my business, I didn't quit my job.

I just looked for the problems that were specifically burning me out, right? And with good, hard awareness, right? And all that is like stopping and asking myself like, what's sucking my energy? And could I shift that in this situation? And I think anytime we think we don't have control over something is really a drain.

Yeah. It really can feel out of alignment. So it's really a, to me it's a question of like how much is being drained out versus filled up. So for you, if you, do you have any other, that was. I gave a couple examples there, right there. But I don't know if there's any other example that really comes to mind for you when you think about what it might look like when someone's out of alignment from your perspective or a client perspective, or just, yeah.

Whatever you wanna share. 

[00:14:31] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah. Yeah, I have a ton of examples. Just because that's one of the big things that I helped, my, the women that I work with, I think those examples you gave are really common examples. I think, I have a friend who's a functional practitioner, and she's big into human design as well, and she's a projector, which, if anyone listening knows what a projector is you have a really sensitive aura. You don't have consistent, stable energy to like, keep going all day. Every day.

And so she. Checks like she only hires people who, she does her human design and hires people who are generators or manifesting generators to basically fill in her energetic gaps.

So she recognizes okay, I know where my limitations are. I know where the gaps are gonna be, and I need this other type that has this consistent energy to keep it going. And I think that's brilliant. I think it's so smart because she's already. Recognizing like where the opportunity would be for her to burn herself out.

I could do all these things. I could keep going and doing all these things, but it's gonna feel really bad and it's gonna drain me. And so she fixed the right people that are gonna fill those gaps for her. So I love that example because I think that maybe that's not the exact example that everybody can relate to, but for.

That same concept of like, where do we need to like, like maybe it's delegating things, right? Maybe it's delegating things. Maybe it's like you said I'm shifting how I'm doing things. For me, that was a big thing for me. And I have a brick and mortar business as well. I have a Pilate studio and.

The worthiness piece right. Shows up a lot. So for a long time I had this aversion to getting a manager and I was literally working like every day, every night, teaching a ridiculous amount of classes. And it was, it was, that was really one of the huge sources of my burnout. But it was being able to delegate.

Like you said, the control thing. I think that was a huge thing for me. Nobody's gonna do it like me. And Yeah. I didn't give anybody a chance to Yes, nobody got a chance to do it. Yeah. And now I have the best manager on the planet, so I mean it, so it is just understanding, like recognizing where you're gripping so tightly and not allowing things to flow.

That's a huge energy suck. And again, maybe it's delegation or maybe it's finding people to fill in the energetic gaps. But all of those things when we resist those, is there gonna be huge leaks on our energy and is a huge contributor to burnout? 

[00:16:32] Christa Biegler, RD: I love those examples. I think one, I wanna just highlight and underline them.

I remember coaching with a friend who owned a couple of businesses, and that was like under the hood. It was like, oh, you're worried that no one can do it like you. Of course no one can do it like you. And you can't do everything. What do you wanna do? Continue to pour it all out. Yep. And then the other one where your friend hires in gaps that I learned that lesson hard.

So I use Enneagram and similarly I think we tend to want to be, we want to often have more people like us. And actually that can be. A source of stress because you probably don't need more people like you. Exactly. You need the people to fill it in the gaps overall. Yep. So I don't know how far we could really get into human design, but, so we'll just lightly maybe touch on it.

'cause I think it's a whole different episode potentially. Unwrapping that. But what is it at a very. Eagle eye level. Yeah. And how do you necessarily apply it a little bit to wellness overall? Because that's not necessarily, I don't know that's how most people use that tool. I think the way you're using it is a bit unique.

So tell us a little bit from a bird's eye view, since you've mentioned it a couple times.

[00:17:35] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah. Basically, human design is your energetic blueprint, so it is your soul's energetic blueprint, how you are here to live and move, interact with the world around you, with the people around you. And it combines some kind of ancient teachings like the chakra system and the ying and the Kabbalah Tree of Life and astrology, and that puts it together with some more modern day.

Sciences like quantum mechanics and quantum physics and neuroscience, and it puts it together into this cool little chart. And so in within your body graph, it gives a whole explanation of how energy is designed to move through you, how you best make decisions and move and be the lessons you're here to learn the like light of your life that you're here to live out.

There's so many things that we can look, find inside your human design the way that I use it. When you look at wellness through the lens of human design, we spend a lot of energy being and doing in a way that we are not designed to. And so when we are moving and living in that way, we're gonna end up needing resistance.

Now, what's first gonna show up as energetic resistance. But eventually it's gonna show up on the fiscal body. I know. A lot of people listening, but also believe like me, that every physical thing happening on the body has some energetic emotional root cause. And so when we are living in that way and we're constantly meeting that resistance, eventually it is gonna manifest itself physically on the body.

So we're using human design. It allows you to understand yourself from this energetic perspective, why am I doing it? Things that I'm doing, why am I doing things in the way that I'm doing? Why do I have these beliefs? And these patterns we're all conditioned. We're, I mentioned conditioning earlier, we're born conditioned where it's in our DNA but it's also, society and culture and family and all these things.

And so all of this is these layers that get poured on top of who we are at a soul level. And this is the resistance because we're not meant to live out. Someone else's life. We're meant to live out our own life and our own soul's purpose. And so with human design, we're able to understand that and pull back those layers and really discover who you are at this soul energetic level.

So we can allow that free flow of life force synergy that allows, homeostasis, equilibrium in the body, however you wanna say it, but it allows the physical body to be in balance, just like the energetic body. So it's really just this deep understanding of the body at an energetic level that allows you to also find balance in your physical body.

[00:19:52] Christa Biegler, RD: Okay, so since. We are covering everything from energetic and emotional to physical and nutritional. There's a potential connection between minerals and maybe we should back up a little bit and cover, I use minerals in practice and I started to use them one 'cause I was introduced to them by a colleague.

And two, I found that this test option or looking at minerals, it's a huge thing. It's, it's how everything works in the body, right? If you don't have minerals, then none of the biochemical reactions will work. But from a testing perspective, right? As we go through this testing thing and go through these experiences.

There are positives and negatives or limitations and better approaches to different ways of doing things. And in short, it ended up being a lower cost, more in depth picture of different patterns going on in the body. It would show you adrenal burnout with almost more accuracy than some of with more ease and more accuracy and less expense than some other testing.

I just wanted to give my kind of definition of how I landed there and I'm curious how you landed there and then what you found as you started working with minerals and how. These other sort of modalities started to, so we'll unpack it as we go. But yeah, we did a little eagle eye from human design, but then I wanna dance back to the physical of, okay, tell me how you got into minerals and what you were seeing.

What were some of the most common patterns you were seeing? And then let's, we'll tie it into the other pieces as well. 

[00:21:24] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah. My experience was similar. I love that it's just really cost effective way to get really good data and, functional labs can get really expensive and some of 'em I do find, have their own limitations and I find that this one is a really good, comprehensive look at everything.

And I started doing. I think it was maybe a year or so into my work that I started tying in the minerals and I just found that it helped connect so many dots that were not connecting, looking at other labs. And to your point too, I get for me that. Mineral testing is the only lab I offer as a standalone lab because I feel like it can give that much really great data where if they don't wanna spend, a thousand dollars on labs, then this is a really an inexpensive way to get really good data and to have some see some really good results when we focus on that.

at the same time, I think too, it's how you started that question. I think there's this deep understanding that. We talk about minerals being the spark plugs in the body, and to really have that deep understanding of knowing we wanna know what's going on at a cellular level, you have to look at minerals.

That's what's happening at a cellular level. And when we talk about hormones and gut and all that minerals are involved in all of those things. So it's that foundational piece of what's happening in the body, like physiologically. And so for me, I wanna start at the root, at the foundation.

[00:22:38] Christa Biegler, RD: For sure. Okay. So when you started running mineral testing, whenever that was, what did you start to see most commonly?

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[00:23:58] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah, I think the biggest things, which I'm sure you can attest to, the biggest things for me were looking at like really sad adrenals, really sluggish thyroids I had a lot of.

Actually yeah, a lot of high tissue calcium had quite a bit, quite a lot of calcium shells going on and copper toxicity and copper dysfunction in the body. Those are probably the most common. Yeah, and a lot of it's like a lot of it was all of that happening at once. It's all on the same level.

[00:24:27] Christa Biegler, RD: You just took the words outta my mouth. I laughed when you said sad adrenals. That's usually what I say as well. It's oh, this is great though. The exciting part about it is that. I feel like these are the women that are getting lost between the cracks everywhere else. And so it's a beautiful thing because.

It could be the thing that someone needs for validation, because usually with testing we all are looking for validation. The challenge is with some testing and there's, it's always depends on the context why. So I always ask people to answer two questions before testing, what do you want to know? What do you hope to learn?

Which, I may have to educate you on what you could learn from this, right? As we just did with mineral testing. What do I hope to learn and can I be content if the answers are inconclusive, which usually with minerals, like that's just not the case. Yeah, that's true. You just really don't get inconclusive results.

You get data and so we talked about sad adrenals and sluggish thyroid. Will you just mention calcium shell and what some of the physical but energetic causes of calcium Shell could be. 

[00:25:22] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah, so there's a couple things here that I find with calcium shell, and this could be like an acute situation, like an acute trauma that was like this extreme stress response, of the calcium protecting your cells from a lot of cortisol.

Or it could be just a chronic thing. For most of my clients, it's a chronic thing. It's like you're in this chronic state of stress and. Like the tissue calcium starts to build up. And what we see is I've had multiple clients having, severe brain fog and I had one client who thought swore she had a DD or a DH, adhd.

She was about to go get on medication. I'm like, let's just try some things first. Sure enough, like we broke through the calcium, shell bounce some minerals out and she's totally fine. And so we start to, and then, there's the other part, the emotional, rigidity is the word that's coming up for me, but there's this emotional dullness, right?

That happens and this feelings of apathy, right? Those also can come up from calcium shell, and so just feeling emotionally detached. Or dull. Yeah. 

[00:26:19] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. I love that. You brought up This phrase that's very common, and you mentioned chronic stress, and I find chronic stress is often unrealized stress.

So these kinds of test results can be awakening in some way. But I always love to ask people when this comes up, what if someone doesn't think that they're stressed? If they're like, I think I'm fine. What would you say in that scenario? 

[00:26:41] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah, I know it's a big 

[00:26:42] Christa Biegler, RD: question.

[00:26:42] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: It is. And I said the same thing. What is this? This is it, right? I'm totally fine. The thing is, our bodies are really great at adapting. That's the really amazing thing about the human bodies. It's really great at adapting. So you probably are quote fine, like you're functioning right?

You're a functioning human. You're getting through the day, you're doing the things that need to get done, but it's this like underlying thing burning under the surface, right? And so for me, I have a lot of clients that say that, and I look at their labs and I'm like. No, your body is telling me a different story, right?

You feel on a surface. 'Cause that's your new threshold, right? That's your that's the level that, that you've established as, this is my baseline, but your body has all these things going on at the surface. And that another reason why I love mineral testing, like you said I agree with you.

I think that you can get a better look at the burnout situation and like the labs are telling me what's actually happening in your body. And so I think it's just this understanding that. Our bodies are really good at adapting, but it also doesn't mean that eventually it's gonna reach a level where your body is now has to scream at you because it's been whispering and giving you little signs and signals and we just push 'em down. I was like, I don't have time for that. I'll deal with it later. Eventually it's gonna be yelling at you and you have 24 different things you have to work on instead of just the few that are annoying. 

[00:27:54] Christa Biegler, RD: I think one of the places it shows up.

Overall as I think that it has a lot to do with relapse causing, where you can go. Correct. Actually, one of the reasons I ended up in that rabbit hole, or maybe, with sluggish thyroid specifically, I feel like, okay, sluggish thyroid is related to adrenal and related to drainage, and yet stress is gonna be a self.

A rate limiting factor around it, but if that's sluggish, then your gut is gonna be sluggish and so you're gonna have relapsing gut issues. Yeah. So you're gonna have relapsing train issues. So for me, once I learned more about it, I was like you can't not take care of everything. Yeah. And so what was happening was, you'd see the results, which is exciting, we're now validating you'd support and you would get results, but.

There were some more obstacles. Because if you continue to dump out the minerals, then you continue to have low status. So let's talk about what you saw as well. I'm sure you had some similar experiences. 'cause we talked before this, you said, I started with the physical piece and then layered in the energetic piece.

And so I don't know if you were seeing a similar thing if you were doing retest and it was like, oh, I'm still low. And it's still the same person. Person. 

And so tell us about how that kind of looked in your practice and then what you did next. Overall. 

[00:29:09] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah. That's really I totally agree with that.

And that's, I have this conversation with my clients where it's like you, you can't expect to heal your body. And be the same person you are than when you had the symptoms. Like that you can't, it doesn't work like that if you really wanna change the symptoms, like we have to reprogram what's going on under the surface.

And that's really, that's the reason that I started bringing in human eye with my clients and then started doing all the subconscious reprogramming to help decondition things as for that reason, like we have to change the operating system, right? There's an operating system that's running the show and it's perpetuating these symptoms or whatever it is that's showing up in the physical body, and so we have to get to the bottom of that, and so it's getting to the bottom of those patterns and those beliefs.

That are running the show energetically causing these physical things to happen. And and that's the big piece. The women that come to me, I would say 99% of them, they've worked with other practitioners. They've done the holistic thing, they've done the functional thing, like they've done all these things, but this is the piece, the energetic piece or the, is the piece that they haven't, that's been left out.

And for me, that's the missing piece. That's the reason, like you said, that's why the symptoms keep coming back or they never really go away. It's missing this energetic piece. Like we can't expect the body to heal running on the same operating system that where the symptoms showed up.

Like it doesn't make logical sense. We have to reprogram the operating system. We have to decondition, we have to shift the patterns, rewire, all of those things. 

[00:30:31] Christa Biegler, RD: So I think, and I'll say this as a positive, it doesn't mean that you don't get. Dramatically awesome results from working on the physical body.

[00:30:40] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Sure. 

[00:30:40] Christa Biegler, RD: It's just that to get the rest of the way, or to not have relapse or to, maybe you're not gonna get a hundred I never expect I'm gonna get a hundred percent results. I'm gonna get maybe 50%, maybe 70, depending on what we're working on and how engaged someone is. And so what's cool is you use different modalities for the nervous system than I do.

So I will share that. What was bothering me was this unconscious stress piece. 'cause it was me too. It was like, oh. How do you even connect? It's I feel like I don't even resonate with some of those things. And so I started using a co theme coaching methodology that took me to those unworthiness things or helped basically shine a light on oh, I am overwhelmed.

I'm like, overwhelm is not. Real. Yeah. It's like there's something underneath of it. Yes. And it's often fear or worthiness issues in general. And so you can understand where if I have some kind of operating system, these thoughts, et cetera, going on from my brain that's controlling how my body's dumping out those minerals, et cetera.

So that was my one piece to connect head to heart or head to feelings in general. 'cause a lot of times when we're really have this calcium shell and we're really hard and we've been self-protecting or shoving our. Pushing our feelings under the rug or in the closet. We're really not that excited about bringing those out, right?

And so we needed to connect to those in a way that felt satisfied, that logical brain in a way. Now I think that human design probably has some elements of that as well. So I'll ask you to tie back to some of the tools that you use. So you use not only human design, but some other things.

And I wouldn't even know where to start to ask about what do you see with human design and minerals? Yeah. Or if you were looking at a mineral test and you saw some s adrenals and suggish, thyroid, et cetera, would you have automatic expectations on human design, or does it depend?

I'm just really curious how these things layer. 

[00:32:25] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah. No I can pretty quickly. Look at someone's HT MA and see what's going on, like with their human design, vice versa. Like I can get the connections and then it, so basically what I look at the labs first, and then I can I then I look at the human design and can kinda make the connections, okay, the lab is saying this is happening, your adrenals, or this is happening, your thyroid.

So then I'm gonna tie it to the human design. So with the energy centers in human design if those listening are familiar with the chakra system, their energy centers, they correlate with the chakras, right? So all of your chakras correlate with. Specific organs or glands that em met specific hormones.

And so this is how I connect the physical and the energetic. So for example, if I'm looking at someone's sad adrenals on their mineral testing, then I'm gonna know that. Okay. I wanna look and see what's happening in the root center. So I'm gonna look at their human design. I'm gonna see, okay, do you have a defined versus an undefined root center?

Which, if you're looking at your human design, it's, is it colored in or is it not colored in? And then we're gonna be able to have a conversation so it's understanding, okay. How are they using the energy from the root center? The root center is a pressure center, it's a center for doing and initiating and starting things.

And I'm using as an example, if you have a defined root center the pressure is internal, so you have this internal drive to get things done. But if you have it undefined, it's this external pressure so you feel other people's energy and that's your driving factor.

And a lot of times this can turn into comparison. This person's doing this and this person's going this fast, and I'm behind. I have an undefined route center and I know that this is a huge driving factor for my adrenal burnout, was being in this comparisonitis for so many years, my business and trying this and this, and none of it felt good, but I felt this in this rat race and I had to keep up and I had to keep going. And that's the, so that is like misaligned energy in our root center. Using that as an example, if it was, we're talking about the thyroid. Your throat center is associated with your thyroid, so now we're gonna talk about their throat center.

You mentioned emotions a second ago, one of the. Centers I look at the most in your human design is because I can, you could see it on like how your body's detoxing and everything. When you're looking at the mineral testing is your emotional solar plexus. Our emotional solar plexus is connected to a handful of detox organs.

So when you are not allowing your self to feel emotions, you're suppressing or pressing, pushing 'em down, all the things we were talking about. You are literally. Holding your body back from detoxing properly. So of course you're gonna be dealing with things like maybe you have estrogen dominance, right?

Or maybe you just are detox, right? You have toxins recirculating in your body. So there's a direct correlation between our emotional processing and how our body is detoxing. And I can see that when I'm looking at human design. 

[00:34:52] Christa Biegler, RD: Oh, I really appreciate this because I did a human design test probably five years ago and I had someone trying to explain it to me who I was not resonating with.

Sometimes you just have to find someone who can speak your language, and it's oh, okay. That makes sense to me. There was, I'm gonna ask you to underline or highlight one more time the root shock. 'cause I pulled up my chart and you said if it's colored in or not colored in. And I think this is interesting.

It's do you have an inner drive or do you feel driven by others? And I wonder I'm not sure which one it is, if it's the bottom one or the one right above it. It's the bottom one. The 

[00:35:24] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: very bottom is the root. Okay. 

[00:35:25] Christa Biegler, RD: It's like gold color. So I don't know if that's filled in or not. Yeah, if it's because the one above it's red.

Oh. So the rest of it's white. I can show you. 

[00:35:34] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Okay. Yeah.

[00:35:34] Christa Biegler, RD: As well, because I'm only intrigued by this just because I remember for the longest time. Essentially like my inner frustration was putting everyone's needs before myself, before anything else. And so what you brought up I just think is a really interesting thing potentially, because I could see how that could like constantly Yeah, create.

Dissonance, right? Yeah. And stress in the body. So I'm not sure if it's colored or not. So 

[00:36:01] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: yours. Yeah. So let's see, what are, you're a generator, so you only have two centers defined, and that would be your root and your sacral. That and that, that's what makes you a generator. By default.

Your sacral is that second box, the one that's red. I don't know why it's two colors, but both of those would be defined. So for you, you have that more internal. Pressure. Which doesn't mean there's not conditioning there. There's conditioning there too, because you can also be really hard on yourself and push yourself to your limits and not know when to stop.

That's the conditioning for a defined root center. And then the sacral center, the one right above this is actually, so I would say the three I look at the most, the root center, which I just talked about, the sacral, which is right above yours, is red there. And then to the right of that is a little triangle.

That's your solar plexus that I talked about a second ago. Your sacral center, the one that's red on yours. This is our center for life force energy and creativity and sexuality. And it's also not, by coincidence is associated with our reproductive organs. And so we think about how many women deal with reproductive issues and fertility issues and hormonal issues.

There's so much going on in that center. And I, that could also be a whole other episode. But those are probably the three that I look at the most. 

[00:37:07] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah, super interesting. And I think this is the bottom line, is. In the beauty of this long form podcast, we get to try to relate to people or make it tangible or whatnot.

'cause when I look at this chart, it is simply Greek to me, which I know that it is a 

[00:37:22] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: lot there. I 

[00:37:23] Christa Biegler, RD: know that it's, and I will tell that to people who wanna do a mineral test, it's not really something you self interpret. In fact, the first time I learned mineral testing from a different mentor, I was like, I'm not doing this.

Like she makes this sound terrible, that people like react to this and this. And it's like there's multiple ways to go about. The same thing overall. And so it's interesting and I like to consider how there are potentially sometimes ancient ties to some of the things we talk about.

Because people may have a positive or negative stereotype around chakras. Sure. I don't know the origin of chakras, but you are essentially. And how many were there? Seven. Like I really, I do not speak, I do not speak chakra. So maybe you could give us a yeah. A 30 thou maybe you'll men, maybe you could just as we did with human design.

And the thing about human design that's intriguing is it's based on like literally where you were. Born as well. Yeah. 

[00:38:14] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah. There's, it can be up there on the woo scale for people. But there's a lot of science to back it up. 'cause there's this whole science around neutrinos, which are these subatomic particles that can go through matter and affect our DNA.

So there is a lot of science. I get that. And that fascinates me. I love that intersection of like science and energetics, there's a lot of science. I also think that there is a lot of science to the chakras too. So if you're familiar with traditional Chinese medicine they talk about that a lot in traditional Chinese medicine and the belief of.

In Chinese medicine is that the yin and yang or the balance in the body starts with the endocrine system. And so all of the chakras are tied to the endocrine system. They're all tied to specific glands in the body. And so there are seven main ones. So in human design there's nine, you see there's nine little shapes on your chart, but there's seven main chakras in the chakra system and it, they flow through, straight line.

The seven main ones flow up through the body and they're all associated with specific organs and glands. And they are responsible for specific energies and emotions and that's how it affects the Q or the life force energy in the body. 

[00:39:12] Christa Biegler, RD: So interesting. No, I love actually all Eastern Asian medicine.

And a lot of times, and I love like face mapping and things, I've never found that to, to have fallacy and their research was asking all these. We'll call them medicine people essentially to combine all of their data. Here's what I saw, and it was related to, and so that was their research, right?

Oh, we all saw those same patterns. And that's, I guess I love that because I am a big fan of pattern recognition in general. Yeah. I'm also a huge fan, and I can tell you are too of like. How do we use some of our inner wiring or how we're conditioned or how we present to the world to help us live our best life?

Like how do we use those as strengths, right? And how do we fill in our weaknesses? And when we start to do that, now we're more of a whole person and we're not trying to fill in everything. We're not trying to do everything. We're not trying to pour out from this half full cup that's getting so empty.

And then we have these burned out adrenals and before you know it and then we're just continuing to blaze on 'cause we gotta prove ourselves, right worthy. Anyone who like earned any kind of professional degree in any kind of, oppression of at all, right? Which could be any woman, any race, any color.

All of these things, right? All of those things are incredible breeding grounds for some of the stuff we covered today, right? Our value and our productivity, et cetera. And so it's just very interesting. I'd love to. Understand a little bit on how these different cultures thought, thought processes, et cetera, that have lasted through essentially centuries.

For sure. You know how they came to be, what was some of the rationale behind them, and how can we use something, I'm not saying like have a personality test and it's a God right at all. It's just a tool exactly. To help me fill in some gaps and help me understand myself better.

Because I think how we get to where we wanna go is to understand ourself well enough, right? To actually be connected. I know this doesn't, isn't very resonant if you're completely disconnected to yourself as I once was, but it's how we get to a connection point. Overall, it's how we fill in these things where right now we might be filling it in with material, right?

Or doing all the things like we think that productivity is gonna give us some value and we're already inherently valuable, right? And so it's like these kind of things that we have to discover. And I think this is part of all of our, I think an opportunity or a perspective we can have is this is the journey.

I think sometimes people get frustrated, myself included. We just wanna heal the problem and never deal with it again. 

[00:41:39] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yep. Yep. Just get rid of it. 

[00:41:40] Christa Biegler, RD: Yeah. And it's what is the lesson in this thing? And if I'm not gonna learn the lesson in this thing, it's gonna keep showing up in another way, unfortunately.

Sure. And I think you, you had a comment or a question, before we came in about how do we prevent ourselves from getting imbalanced again? And I think that this is a really good thing to end on. Yeah, because I'm obsessed with the concept of relapse prevention. I don't think really anyone's talking about it, but this is your statement of how you bring it up.

So talk to us a little bit about that. We've danced around the topic already, of course, but when we're, when you consider all of this, it's okay, let me help validate with this physical thing and then let's actually get into the. Pulling back into alignment so you can actually heal because we can keep dumping the minerals down and it, you will feel better undoubtedly, right?

But how can we start to bring back into alignment? I like the concept of bringing back into alignment because if we think about it from the physical sense. A lot of symptoms are just deficiency or imbalance in a system in general, and you're just, taking that to a different level as well with everything you've talked about today with chakra and human design, et cetera.

The conversation is balance, literally. Are we getting sucked? Is everything being poured out of us more than we're pouring in? And so what would you say to someone who's okay, I'm getting this, but I need to understand tangibly, what to do now and how do I stop from being out of balance, et cetera.

Yeah. So how do you wanna answer that? 

[00:43:02] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: I think the best way, or perhaps the only way is, and this might sound really trite, but it's just to understand your body. And it sounds basic. I know, but I tell my clients this all the time when they work with me. If you get no results whatsoever from me, I at least want you to understand how your body works.

I want you to understand physics, which I go deep when I'm doing labs. I'm going deep into the explanation. I want you to understand. Everything that the lab is saying and how this correlates to what you're feeling. I wanna go deep into your human design. Understand so you understand yourself energetically.

Like I want you to have none of us, were given a manual for how this vessel works, right? So we don't know half of us weren't even taught how our period works. Let's be honest. Yeah. So I want women to understand how their bodies work. And I really think that's the key to that to, to your question, how do we prevent, like how do we get into alignment and not get out and not to say.

You are never gonna get out of alignment 'cause we're human living a human experience and this is not a linear existence. But it, the fact is, when you have this understanding of your body and you have this deep knowing and this deep wit body wisdom, then you know how to handle anything that comes your way.

So when you do feel things maybe pop back up or this thing flared, or, I'm in this stressful situation and I don't wanna get myself all in a, you know about, how to you are resourced, you have the tools, you're resourced because you have that deep. Inner knowing that inner wisdom of your body and how it works and why it works, and what I can do to help this thing, and how do I can embody this piece.

Am I letting go of this boundary? Like you can make all those adjustments because you have that knowing. So as. Basic or silly or whatever, unsexy as it sounds. I really think it's just the knowing, like really knowing and understanding your body and how it works like that. I really feel like that's the answer to everything.

I 

[00:44:51] Christa Biegler, RD: agree with you. I would say as I've restructured how I help clients, a lot of it. Is physiology. I'm like, let me help you understand physiology blended with, what we know works in the most efficient way possible. Yeah. That's the personal experience part of it, or the clinical experience part of it.

But otherwise it's physiology in a way that you can take with you and understand. Because the reality is if something got out of balance once it could happen again. It's just, if you can be aware of it and understand it and realize your body's not attacking you, it's just telling you. A story. It's giving a 

[00:45:26] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: message.

Yeah. It's 

[00:45:27] Christa Biegler, RD: just giving you a message. So I think this was so much fun and actually, so I didn't know we'd be aligned and that's always fun as well. It's oh, we had some similar experiences. Yeah. Hope. Where can people find you online? 

[00:45:40] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Yeah, you can. I'm most active on Instagram. I'm at the Hope Praza.

My website is hopeful and wholesome.com. And then I also have a podcast by the same name, hopeful and Wholesome. Awesome.

[00:45:50] Christa Biegler, RD: Thank you so much for coming on today.

[00:45:52] Hope Pedraza, FDN-P: Thanks Christa. Thanks for having me.