Success can be very elusive whether it's to lose weight, stop bingeing on Netflix or saving enough money. What if you found a way how to get unstuck and actually reach your goals?
This week’s guest is surgeon and author, Dr. John Chuback.
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John A. Chuback, M.D., is Board Certified in General Surgery and Cardiovascular Surgery. He received his MD from Rutgers University. His passion is to assist patients with weight management, smoking cessation, personal development, and academic achievement through figuring out how to set actionable, attainable goals.
Dr. Chuback is also a successful entrepreneur. He is the founder and Chief Medical Officer at Chuback Medical Group, founder and managing member of Elant Hill, LLC, and the nutraceutical company BiosupportMD. He is the recipient of the Patient’s Choice Award and Compassionate Doctor Recognition amongst many other honors. Dr. Chuback is a member of the Board of Trustees at Phillip’s Academy Charter School in Newark, NJ, an exceptional school where underprivileged children receive an outstanding education.
As an author he has written two books, the self-help book, Make Your Own Damn Cheese and Kaboing! 50 Ideas That Will Springboard You To Academic Greatness.
Dr. John Chuback is the founder of Chuback Education, LLC, which offers written/audio programs to help people achieve personal excellence.
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Success can be very elusive whether it's to lose weight, stop bingeing on Netflix or saving enough money. What if you found a way how to get unstuck and actually reach your goals?
This week’s guest is surgeon and author, Dr. John Chuback.
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John A. Chuback, M.D., is Board Certified in General Surgery and Cardiovascular Surgery. He received his MD from Rutgers University. His passion is to assist patients with weight management, smoking cessation, personal development, and academic achievement through figuring out how to set actionable, attainable goals.
Dr. Chuback is also a successful entrepreneur. He is the founder and Chief Medical Officer at Chuback Medical Group, founder and managing member of Elant Hill, LLC, and the nutraceutical company BiosupportMD. He is the recipient of the Patient’s Choice Award and Compassionate Doctor Recognition amongst many other honors. Dr. Chuback is a member of the Board of Trustees at Phillip’s Academy Charter School in Newark, NJ, an exceptional school where underprivileged children receive an outstanding education.
As an author he has written two books, the self-help book, Make Your Own Damn Cheese and Kaboing! 50 Ideas That Will Springboard You To Academic Greatness.
Dr. John Chuback is the founder of Chuback Education, LLC, which offers written/audio programs to help people achieve personal excellence.
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Generally speaking, your results are direct mirror of how you've been thinking most of the time.
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Welcome to the less stressed life podcast. This is your host Krista Bigler, Private practice, Integrated nutritionist helping people across the U. S. Reverse digestive issues. Exuma and Auto Immunity via phone and video. Consult toe, learn more. Visit less stressed nutrition dot com Now onto the show. Okay, today on the less stress life we have Dr John, who is a board certified general surgery and cardiovascular surgeon who received his MD from Rutgers University. His passion is to assist his patients with weight management. So smoking cessation, personal development and academic achievement through figuring out how to set actual attainable goals, which, honestly, is a kind of a fleeting thing for her, a lot of us. He is also the author of the self help book Make Your Own Damn Cheese and the founder of Chubbuck Education, which offers programs, help people achieve their personal excellence. Welcome, Dr Beck.
spk_0: 1:03
Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here,
spk_1: 1:05
so I was going to I saw you in camera before we started recording, and I was going to ask you if you had left surgery and you were in scrubs and I thought, I'm pretty sure he's still pretty sure he's still working. But I do love when people follow their passions and some kind of just curious about the backside of a surgeon writing kind of inspirational books like I see a little bit of a relationship. Where did this come from? And why did you start that?
spk_0: 1:30
Well, you know, I came from medical family. My father was was the doctors and over Joe and my mother was a nurse. And so that was sort of in my mind from a very young age. And I had a very sort of long, rigorous academic journey to becoming an open heart surgeon. I started, I tell everybody. I started school at age three, and I finished at 33 and so that was a long road of formal education. So education was something that was very near and dear to my heart. And then the 1st 6 years I was in practice, I was doing only open heart surgery here and here in New Jersey, doing triple in questionable bypasses and valve replacements and all that kind of thing and then with some changes that were occurring in medicine at that time and the advancement of minimally invasive treatment of of cardiac disease with angioplasty and stents and all of those things that were done by cardiologists, which I'm not a cardiologists, I'm a cardiac surgeon. The volume of of surgical cases went way down and, um, there were other issues with reimbursement and so on and so forth. So I was looking for something you know, to add to my practice, and I became familiar with with office based, laser based treatment for for vain disease, varicose veins and things like that. So I started in that field, and that took off. Over time. I phased out of open heart surgery, and now I I specialize on Lian Venus disease office based Venus disease. But in the meantime, as I develop my practice and, um, had a little bit more time not doing the big operations in the hospital, in the emergency work and working weekends and nights and all that, I had time to reflect on my educational background and all that I had learned, and I just wanted to give back. So I had the time and I had the desire and I started to think about my education. And the first book I I wrote was a book for academic excellence. You know, tips and advice for younger people in school and I became more and more involved in this field of personal development. And that's how basically, I round up writing the second book called Make Your Own Damn Cheese, which is really a book that could be applied to absolutely any aspect of your life. And that's become a real labor of love. And it's become, you know, more and more, um, time consuming, as I'm educating more people and spending more time on programs like yours and lecturing and so forth. So that's kind of the background and how it all happened. There was no great master plan in the beginning, I can assure you, but organically, this is where I've ended up. I'm I'm very, very happy where I am,
spk_1: 4:25
and it gives your life a little bit of balance. I think we could talk on about this, but it's nice to have a little bit of two things right. It's good to really be into, like in the in the trenches of personal development because it helps keep you kind of refreshed and an awesome doctor in the office. I think probably that
spk_0: 4:42
does the two the two feet, each other. And it's a nice balance, as you say it really is.
spk_1: 4:47
So I have not read who moved my cheese. But is this a play on who moved my cheese to make your own damn cheese? And, by the way, did read the synopsis and it's a story, right? Yeah,
spk_0: 4:58
the answer is yes. I mean, it's it's sort of, you know, who moved My cheese was written by another physician named Spencer Johnson, who is unfortunately no longer living. But I read his book at that very critical point in my life about 15 years ago when I was still doing open heart surgery. And, um, you know, it wasn't all it was cracked up to be for me, and I was I was, you know, although professionally, quite successful, very successful in that field, I was just unfulfilled, and I was unhappy with the amount of time I was spending in the hospital and away from my family and so forth. And Spencer Johnson's book, who moved my cheese, which is one of the great great worldwide all time best sellers, talked about what happens when the cheese has been taken from your corner of the maze and sort of disappears. What do you do that? Should you stay in that corner of the maze waiting for the cheese to reappear? Or should you go out, traverse the maze looking, you know, in new corners and a new areas to see if you can find more cheese? And, um so it was. It came to me at a critical time when I was making that decision. Should I leave cardiac surgery or moving to a new field? And it gave me the courage to do that. And so I was very, um, moved and influenced by the book and then following that, I read many, many, many books and attended seminars and so on and so forth and personal development became very knowledgeable in the space. And I got to a point where I felt I had something to add to the conversation, and I thought it would be nice to sort of tip my hat to Spencer Johnson and use kind of the same rubric that he had used of these mice living in a maze, um, to write, make your own damn cheese and and, um, that's how that's how it all happened.
spk_1: 6:48
So I think there's a great Segway into, you know, one of the things that your passion about essentially is helping people get to their goals. Because at the end of the day, in a lot of fields, including your field, I'm I'm guessing you have consulates in your office with your patients and you see, and you talk about weight management, smoking cessation. And I know this influences what you're doing in your practice on the back end. And so you're constantly recommending things for goals for clients, right? But the issue is getting there, and so I think I'm guessing that's part of where this feeds in. But my point is, there are some things that prevent people from achieving their goals. And you said you have something to add to that, so you're using these mazes. So what are some of the mental mazes that really prevent people from achieving their goals like, what are the barriers or thing standing in their way that you see most commonly that you identify
spk_0: 7:37
right? Well, it's a great question. The short answer is that the mental mazes, the mental impediments, are almost everything in terms of what is driving our behavior, what both successful and unsuccessful, what's holding us back and what's also propelling us forward. It's it's all habitual behavior generally, that we can look at the results of our lives and then look back at how we think. And the thinking is always behind the actions, which always leads to the results. So we in the bookmaker on them cheese I talk about, and I show you with a very simple but powerful diagram. We call it the Mind Mouse. It's based on something called the Stick Man diagram, and basically it shows you how the how the mind is broken up into three areas the conscious mind, the subconscious mind in the super conscious mind. But to keep it simple for the purposes of today's discussion, we can talk about the conscious mind, which is our thinking mind and the subconscious mind, which is the non thinking mind. And it's also known as the emotional mind. So so much of what we do in terms of our daily behaviors which, which dictate our results, is based on our beliefs that we call the paradigms the various paradigms that are rooted in our subconscious mind. And those paradigms could also be called I self concept. How do I see myself in the world? What role do I see myself playing? Am I a smoker? Am I a drinker? Am I an overeater m I cardiac surgeon and my podcast host? How do I see myself? Who do I really believe that I am in terms of the ideas that I've fallen in love and fallen in love with these air, the ideas that are very comfortably suited and seeded in my subconscious mind. Some of them are good beliefs, and some of them are not so good to leave beliefs and can be very destructive. Um, so my strong belief is that for all of us in the various aspects of our lives, these paradigms or subconscious belief systems are really responsible for just about everything we see in our life in terms of our results.
spk_1: 10:01
It's your identity, right?
spk_0: 10:02
It is. It is
spk_1: 10:04
itself fine. I feel like I interview a lot of doctors that have gone into different spaces. And there was one a while back talking. We had a one and two part about anxiety, and he talked a lot about how you identify. Do you identify as I have this condition, or do I have this thing or or actually, as anxious is the term he used to identify as anxious? Or is it just something like this is just how it it like, This is an increase of stress hormones, and I'm going to decrease the stress hormone. So you became very kind of pragmatic or really surgical because he was also a surgeon s o very surgical about it, right? Like, let's step back and linearly put this together. And here's what the real issue is. And so how do we shift our identity? And I know he's done some other things, like in workmen's comp situation. Do. And I just think this is an interesting concept was after the interview was talking to someone else I know who had heard him as part of her work seminars, and she said he did something on the injured a client or the recovering client, and those are two different ways to identify, like um, I injured and perpetually injured, Or am I recovering and on the road to recovery? And so anyway, so it's just Those are the things I think about as we talk about, sort of how I love how you say it's good for us all. Step back. If you were writing a resume and you had to pick out like the three things that the top, how are you identifying yourself?
spk_0: 11:22
Me personally?
spk_1: 11:24
Well, I just It's kind of rhetorical, but just in general, Yeah, like, how do you identify yourself? So in you talked about some things are not so positive. So how do you see the not so positive identities kind of manifesting? And people?
spk_0: 11:38
Well, I think that that's pretty straightforward. In fact, it's not. It's not difficult. You look at the results, the results never lie. Um, you know, again, I'm not. I'm not a religious person and nor my kind of a biblical scholar by any means. But I do think a lot of these old scriptures from all corners of the world have have some powerful lessons in them. And one of one of the quotations that I like is that you know, by their fruits, you shall know them. You know, if you if you look at someone's results, it tells you a lot. Almost everything about how they've been thinking. In other words, if I see a new consultation in fact, before we before we got on today, I just saw a new consultation. This patient doesn't fall in that category. But if I see a new, a new patient walked down the hallway in my office, who's £450? I've never met the person before, but I can as a as a professional and even as a lay person, I could make a lot of assumptions about how that person has been thinking by their results. You know, I know how they feel about exercise and how they feel about food. To a certain extent, I know what their diet is made up of. What whether they're honest about it with me or not is a different subject. Many patients like that. Well, I don't eat, you know, and this and that, and I do this. I do that. But I know that that that person who comes to us at £450 there's probably a lot of emotional stuff going on psychological stuff going on. I can almost bet you my bottom dollar that a lot of those feelings go back to their childhood. You know what went on in the home, etcetera. So there. The results are always, um, indicative of the thinking. Now that goes to your weight, goes to your bank account that goes to your profession. It goes to your educational status, the level of school that you went to, And it's not a judgment you can have not. You know, you can have nothing in the bank. It's not. That doesn't make you a good or a bad person. But money, for example, is an easy thing to look at because you can count it. You know, they said, Well, let's count. How much do you have to have any? No, I don't. You have a lot. Yeah, I d'oh! Now that's not a judgment in terms of your value as a human being, but it's a financial judgment, and it reflects how you've been thinking about saving right because you could have someone who makes a $1,000,000 a year earns a $1,000,000 a year, is nothing in the bank, so we know something about how they think about earning. And we know something about how they think about saving their two different subject to different paradigms, because some of us grew up in families that made very little money but did a lot of saving. Others of us grew up in families that made a lot of money and never thought about saving. So the results that you see in your life will always reflect how you've been thinking about that. Most people don't know that most people don't know that. They think that their results are by luck or by chance. Good luck, bad luck, the position I was in, etcetera. But in fact, I believe my personal belief. I'm sure that people who would argue with me, which is fine, but generally speaking, your results, our direct mirror of how you've been thinking most of the time,
spk_1: 14:48
cool. I like that because that's a hard thing to say, and it's something to reflect on quite a bit. So you're saying you become what you think about or your results are results of what you think about. So if someone's trying to kind of re calibrate or set a new maze or a new path like a new path down there. Mase. What are some of the words or behaviors that someone should adopt to kind of change not only their philosophy, but their trajectory?
spk_0: 15:15
Well, I think you have to begin with an understanding of how powerful your mind is and how you're thinking. Mind the conscious mind programs, the subconscious mind so that we have to know that whatever we're thinking about over and over and over again will percolate through what we call the psychic barrier, which is a barrier that that, um, separates the conscious mind from the subconscious mind and that if there's something that we see in our results, let's say R R R wait for our smoking habits. Okay, let's they were smoking. If you're smoking, your subconscious mind believes that I'm a smoker. That's what it knows. I am a smoker. I am a smoker. So if you want to change that behavior, you can't change that through your conscious thinking mind. Only you can say, you know what? Tomorrow I'm going to stop smoking. Well, we all know that most smokers in their conscious, um intellectual mind. No, that they shouldn't smoke and they don't want to smoke. The problem is that that that thought has not yet been planted in the subconscious emotional mind what the ancient Greeks called the heart. So the another old old saying from I guess from the Scriptures is a as a man. Think, if in his heart, so is he not in his brain, not in his mind but in his heart. That's the subconscious, the emotional mind. So the person says, I should stop. I should stop smoking. I should stop drinking. I should stop overeating. That's the intellectual conscious mind speaking. It's not the subconscious mind when everybody goes to bed, that same person sneaks into the kitchen, starts eating chocolate cake in his pajamas when nobody's looking. But that's not the intellectual mind driving that behavior. It's the subconscious mind. It's the it's the person I see myself as that is driving that behavior so I can maintain that overweight individual that I have become and that I've fallen in love with and that I've become comfortable with
spk_1: 17:19
the self sabotage,
spk_0: 17:21
the self sabotage, correct. So why am I sabotaging myself? Why am I doing this to myself? Well, it doesn't it. It doesn't mean that you're pathological or that there's self moving or hatred, but maybe it's a simple as well. I grew up in a family where we were over readers and I was over fed. And that's how we showed love. And in our culture, we over eight. And if I didn't eat my grandmother's spaghetti and meatballs and I didn't get two or three servings, she she accused me of not loving her and someone who knows. I mean, but there are a lot of those kinds of motivations that go way back that program, the subconscious mind that a very, very young age and those become our beliefs. You know, for example, the, um had prior to the age of about seven or eight. The thinking mind, the rational intellectual mind has not been yet developed, so all we are is a subconscious mind walking around wide open, open to any suggestion that's put there like a fertile garden. Whatever you plant there will grow. So as a child, it's a very, um, compromised position to be in, depending on the environment you're in. If you're surrounded by heavy drinkers, or heavy smokers or overeaters, for example. The likelihood is there going to plant those ideas in your mind. And by the time your intellectual mind develops after the age of eight, it's too late to change those beliefs. So the Jesuits have known this for 400 years. They say. They've been saying for 400 years. Give me the boy before the age of seven and I'll show you the men for the rest of his life That interesting.
spk_1: 19:00
It is interesting.
spk_0: 19:02
It's hard to change.
spk_1: 19:03
Yeah, exactly. That is that that's it's very hard to make a decision. Um, I'm not saying it's hard to make the decision. It's hard to change programming when it's something innate that's become any almost right. Like it's This is the path that's been paved for a long time. And e. You mentioned some really good things. Will you see this a lot? We talk about this a lot and dietetics, you know, when you are told you have to eat all the food on your plate. How does that manifest later on in life? It's a little different for everyone, right? Like there's many more things that affect that. But As you said, you see, you see the same story showing up in, up again and again. What did you say? Go ahead
spk_0: 19:38
on. I was going to say there's an old sort of sardonic joke by Johnny Carson was famous for. He used to say, When I was a kid, my mother would say to me, Eat everything on your plate. You know, people in other parts of the world are starving to death, he said. So I ate everything on my plate, and the people in the other parts of the world were still starving to that. You know what if she put the weight of the world on my shoulders to finish everything on my plate? And now here I am obese, and I didn't really do anything to help those starving people. Now his mother's intentions were We're good, um, not to be wasteful, to be appreciative and so on and so forth, but on the other hand, she didn't really know what she was doing. So that's one of the things we have to do is let go of any anger or, um, blame that we I want to put on those people around us who who were heavily responsible for programming our belief systems. At the same time, we have to give credit to them where they where credit is due, that they have been planted a lot of good seeds that grew to make us, you know, educated, successful, whatever it is. So those are things that they can take they can take credit for. But okay, to try to blame them for the things that they have responsibility for, quote unquote In terms of the results we don't like, it's too late for that. We have to take responsibility for ourselves and again, I think this understanding how the mind is structured and how it functions is such a powerful tool where you can say to yourself, Oh, I get it now So if I start thinking differently about food, if I started thinking differently about alcohol, if I started thinking differently about my educational level, I can eventually reprogrammed my subconscious mind. Overwrite that old what I like to call virus code, that old bad code that's in the hard drive of this computer, that software that I don't want to run anymore, and I can replace it over time by writing tons and tons and tons of good new code because you can't ever you can never, unfortunately, erase the old hard drive. That old code is always going to be there. But what we have to d'oh through positive thinking and through self affirmations and auto suggestion and reading and education and spending more time with the right people overwhelmed that old program with a new program which is much more robust, much more updated, much more of a luminous. And then we'll start to see our behaviors change.
spk_1: 22:07
You said something that you didn't directly say right there that I think is important. I believe you said, essentially, we it's not your fault and we're not blaming it on someone else. We're just being aware of what the reality was, and we're making a choice to change and creating your reality, essentially because I think that's a that's a That's something people want to back away, like we want to either blame or we want to say, Well, this is how it is, but we're not blaming. We're just accepting and assessing and then making ah choice to move in a different direction, right,
spk_0: 22:39
because you can blame me all you want, but it won't be helpful. I mean, people love, and we all do this. I mean, you know, again, I work. I'm working on this stuff just like everybody else. I mean, it's easier to lecture on to dio, but, you know, people like to blame the government. They like to blame their parents. I'd like to blame the politicians. They like to blame taxes. They like to blame, You know, the big Big Pharma. They like to blame the big corporations. Coca Cola, McDonald's. That's great. But ultimately, you better make sure that you're on the list of people that you're blaming. Because ultimately you're the only one who can change any of that. Yeah. I mean, maybe McDonald's is doing a bad job by serving what they do. And Coca Cola is doing a bad job by offering their soft drinks, But they're not gonna go away. So only you can decide. I'm not gonna drink Coca goal or Diet Coke, for that matter. You know, I'm going to switch to, you know, water. Um, I'm not going to go where those people go and think the way that they think and behave the way they behaved. But I've been doing that for many years, so it's gonna be really hard to change that thinking changed that program, change those paradigms and start moving in a new direction. But we have to take responsibility for ourselves, and it's easier when you have a a tool or a system like the one that I present in the book. Um, because then you have you have a really set of skills that you can work with, as opposed to sort of, um, being like a ship at sea with no sale and no rudder and just kind of drifting and hoping to wash up into some glorious port somewhere. It's it's much more likely that if you don't have a sale and you don't have a rudder and you don't have a motor, you're probably just gonna wash up onto the rocks. So what I try to do in the book is is to give people some real tools where they can take back control of their mind and take back control of the thinking and then re program that subconscious hard drive to to drive new results.
spk_1: 24:42
I think this is a good place where someone could pause the recording, pause the podcast and have a reflection moment and say, What is something that I have been blaming? Something on that I need to reframe my thinking about and you're right. A tangible road map is nice. A tangible plan is very nice. It helps you kind of get out of a stuck thinking mindset, right? Because that's where people are drifting. Sometimes where they are stuck and then, like life is not awesome when you're kind of and we all have funks, we all have funks, and we sort of have to dig back into sort of the personal development to be somewhat re inspired. A reinvigorated almost, I
spk_0: 25:20
agree you have to study the personal development. I teach this stuff now, but I study every day. I'm a student, and I studied every day I read, and I'm I'm involved in in programs with other with other mentors and so forth. It's just like exercise or, you know, you know, training and nutrition. It's if you you can think all you want about having, you know Ah, really strong core. But if you don't do the core exercises every day or every other day. Um, all the thinking in the world's not not going to make that a reality.
spk_1: 25:56
You know, I mentioned this periodically throughout this podcast. The podcast is called The Less Stress Life. Not because I was some kind of stress expert or any kind of expert on stress. It was just a synonym for inflammation. And I wanted to talk more about that and really by default, because we accident. But I do it really enjoy what the physiology is, what physiology is happening in the body when people increase dress. So because I have to talk about it all the time with clients because we can't get away from this topic, I've had to adopt a lot of things, right? And so no one like is just naturally an expert. I did not understand how stressed I was until I started talking about it and practicing what I preached. And so I only tell you that to just show that we're all a little huge, like we're all human. No one is really better than some like we're all just a little bit different spots in our journey are in the book, right? And so so honestly, sometimes you know, they say you really know something when you can teach it. Sometimes you're teaching something, and that's when you're also applying, um, or allowed to apply It are allowed to be, you know, really in in the trenches of it. So anyway, um so you know, sometimes I've mentioned that we have just a couple emotions, and of course, there's many more. But we can boil a lot of things down to happiness and fear. You say happiness and satisfaction are not the same thing. So what is that about? Why should we always be happy but never satisfied?
spk_0: 27:19
Well, I think we should always be happy because it's going to be happy better than being depressed. So that part's easy, right? Um, it doesn't mean that we can always be happy, but I think it's that's a very admirable goal to have to try to be happy every day. Happy in our lives have been our relationships happy in our work and so on and so forth. Um, but happiness and satisfaction are often used interchangeably and synonymous, Lee, but I think that there's a subtle but very important difference between them on my office wall. Next to my desk. I have sort of a corkboard there and and some photos of some inspirational people, including Alexander Graham Bell and, um uh, Thomas Edison and Henry Ford and the Wright brothers. And people like that. What do you think about just those few people that I mentioned? It's quite extraordinary. Mean Alexander Graham Bell brought us the telephone and Henry Ford would affordable mass produced automobiles to America and then to the world. The Edison brought electric light to, um, the world and the Wright brothers brought aviation and travel by air to the world. Now I've read and studied a lot about all of those those people. I've read biographies and autobiographies and watched, um, documentaries and so on and so forth. I've never read anything, anywhere to read that any of them were depressed or unhappy by nature. Now there are other brilliant people throughout history as we know who have been. But but as far as I know, these five have not been or we're not unhappier depressed. On the other hand, they must have been dissatisfied. I mean, major league dissatisfied. The Wright brothers were to bicycle repairman from Dayton, Ohio. They had no formal education between beyond high school. They certainly weren't a v a shiner. Aeronautical engineers. There was no aeronautical engineering school, so but they were not satisfied with the modes of transportation which existed, which were many. There was horse and buggy. There was horseback, there were automobile's. Already there were ships and boats and trains, and there were lots of ways to get around. But somehow they became obsessed. They had this magnificent obsession with air travel, and they risk their lives trying to prove that human beings could fly and mechanized flying machines. So dissatisfaction is a creative state. Edison,
spk_1: 30:04
I got dissatisfaction. Is a creative status interest?
spk_0: 30:07
Exactly. Exactly. Depression is not. The Depression is, is A is a slowed state and so on and so forth. This dissatisfaction. So if you have a happy, dissatisfied person, you've got really great combination. Somebody loving to get into the laboratory every day and saying, Could we create this talking machine? Can we get this light bulb to finally work? They they say. I mean, they're all these stories. Who knows how many of them are true, but they're good for for teaching purposes anyway, Anecdotally, they say, that Thomas Thomas Edison tried something like 10,000 different filaments in the electric light bulb before he found something that burned brightly enough and long enough without burning out and breaking. And it was too dim before he found I guess it was the carbon and pregnant impregnated wire or something like that that finally worked for the incandescent boat. So people said, you know, didn't you, um you know, get depressed. Didn't you get disheartened with all of these failed experiments and so forth? They said, you know, basically his answer was not really I you know, I didn't see myself is failing. I proved 10,000 ways that didn't work. And I documented that for other people, in case they were going to try what I tried. If I'd never figured it out, at least I could document Don't use horsehair. Don't use this, don't use, You know cotton don't use. So I felt like I was making progress. And, um, I was moving closer and closer to my goal. But he was he was not satisfied with candlelight and oil lamps and things like that that were, you know, smelly and dirty and relatively expensive. And can cause fires and burn cities and things like that. So this dissatisfaction with light as it waas in his lifetime up until that point put him in an incredibly creative state, and eventually he was successful. And we're all the beneficiaries of that of that. Dissatisfaction
spk_1: 32:06
never thought about it like that. And I like the perspective that, you know, we're always trying to achieve something else or rejoice trying to achieve, You know, something a little better, And I think that also sometimes maybe I don't know if this is the right way to say it. But sometimes it's personality type. You know, when we do these personality quizzes, sometimes some people are just like they just want to keep improving upon a system on guy. Totally resonate with that quite a bit. But let's say someone you mentioned like it's important for everyone to be happy. So that's something we can all agree on. So if we wanted to give people some tangible things that they consider being more happy today, what are some daily habits to make someone more positive?
spk_0: 32:46
Well, I think there are a lot of them. I think you know none of them may be earth shattering for your listeners, but it's always worth while to go through them again. Um, I believe very strongly that repetition is the first corollary of of education, Um, and learning. So number one, I think that the moment you open your eyes in the morning and you're still lying in bed, I think the the idea of a gratitude exercise is extremely helpful and extremely healthy that you lie there before getting up and you say, You know, um, you remember you're speaking, Thank God or thank my lucky stars are Thank goodness or whatever you want to say that I have woken up again today that I'm alive, that I have my health to whatever extent your health is at that time. There's always somebody who could be worse off that I have a roof over my head that I have a pillow under my head and so on and so forth. So I think, starting with gratitude exercise is extremely, extremely important. And then I I like to go into a period every morning of what I call silent solitude. After I've gotten up and out of bed, I'll sit quietly in a room and I'll just listen to my inner voice. And I think that that's a very powerful exercise, probably not something that too many people. D'oh! It's different than meditation, by the way. Although I think meditation is a valuable exercise in itself, meditation tends to be more of a process of trying to quiet the mind. Where is the silent solitude exercise that I go through? Is an opportunity to listen to the mind, Um, which is a fascinating thing. And it's very difficult for a lot of people, especially when they first begin, because not everything that your inner voice has to say is always so pleasant. You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of fighting going on in there at times, so I think that's a powerful thing to do. And then following that as a morning routine. I like to work in a journal and start to write down some ideas and and set some goals. And I think gold setting is a very important, important process, moving forward and personal development, that in growth and um so that those three things are a great way to get started and get the mind sort of tuned up for the day and then throughout the day. I like the idea of these positive affirmations. The most powerful of all, um, is I like myself. I like myself and if you can get there, I love myself. I love myself. I love myself and I love my work. You know, I'm grateful for my family. I'm grateful for my health. I'm grateful for my job. I'm grateful for the amazing country that I live in. I'm grateful for freedom. I'm grateful for all of these opportunities. Whatever it is that you're grateful for, that don't You don't have to. It's not a mantra. You don't have to repeat what I'm saying. You have your own beliefs and feelings, but positive things feed your feed your subconscious, subconscious mind as much positive information as you possibly can. And you're you're well on your way to a better day. And I think a much more fruitful and fulfilling life.
spk_1: 36:09
Cool. I'm gonna recap it for our listeners because sometimes when you're driving, you didn't hear everything you wanted to hear from that. So doctor to back said, Start your day with gratitude because when you are grateful, it's pretty impossible to be really unhappy. Also, silent solitude, which I think is cool because you said it's meditation is just about thoughts coming in and non judgmental, kind of pushing them aside, quieting the mind. Where is silent? Solitude is listening to your mind, and sometimes we don't have the opportunity to do that. I mean, I feel like I do that when I wash the dishes in. That's like my favorite. Now that all my kids are in school, it's my favorite part of them. The morning I like silence that is like that is the practice. Silence, solitude, just doing things and puttering around the house. I literally am thinking in that way, but you could do this in so many ways. I just liked how you talked about the difference between meditation listening to what's going on in the brain, because often we don't have a chance to listen to it, cause our life is noisy versus meditation, which is quiet in the brain and then finally journaling because really, a lot of great things come from journaling. Anything you do that so many ways, and then during the day I love her, you said positive affirmations and the most valuable one was to say, I like myself and then turn it into I love myself and I just think there's a lot of that was really that, like, put a little smile on my face So that's great. So, Doctor, you're back. Working people find you online.
spk_0: 37:26
They can find me at, um, chew back education dot com, which is, um, my education company, where we have some resource. Is there, um, in terms of, you know, weight loss? Resource is educational, resource is smoking cessation, and they'll be information coming up about hopefully, some upcoming future seminars, and my books are there and things like that, And, uh, everybody can follow me on Instagram at John True back, M D. Or in Facebook at Chu Back Education Yes, on Facebook. So those are the places for this for this area. And then, of course, anybody in need of America's reigning work we have to back medical dot com. That's it. That's the other limb.
spk_1: 38:12
Just in case you never know. You never know. You never know. It's a big it's actually pretty serious Big thing. It's C H u B A C K. Hey, I got a question. I'm on your website and your, um there's little logo and it's an elephant. And why is it an elephant?
spk_0: 38:28
Oh, that's a great question. Thanks so much for asking. I designed that little go in fact, Well, one of my favorite things, you know, having taken on some big things in my life, like, you know, becoming a cardiovascular surgery. That was a big That was a big, big, um, choice and decision that I made at a very early age at the age of 18 or 19. My when I started college, and I knew that it would be a 15 year road to become a cardiac surgeon. So it's sort of like a decision like that is sort of like eating an elephant. So the old, the old adage says, How do you eat an elephant? The answer is one bite at a time. So if you notice that elephant that my logo has a bite taken out of his back. So that is what we're all doing, you know, in personal development, that's a big elephant. Eat. You're trying to get better. You're trying to grow as a human being. You try and be the best person you can be and the most productive and and so on itself, whether it's a big undertaking, so don't be overwhelmed by it. Just take it one bite at a time. One one book at a time. One silent solitude session at a time. One. I like myself at a time, one whatever at a time, and over the course of time they add up. And and then the point is, that kind of positive thinking will indeed without fail because it's it's the law of how the mind works will percolate through that psychic barrier, and it will recede your subconscious mind and you will feel differently and you will behave differently. And you will see better results in the areas that you you want to improve.
spk_1: 39:59
Well, Dr Hsu back Thank you so much for that. I'm really glad you asked that question as well. Uh, in here's a call to action for listeners. I heard you say, How do you need an elephant? One bite at a time. And I thought, You know what? It's gonna be an ominous text message that I'm gonna send you a couple of friends that I know We're very overwhelmed right now because they have told me some things going on in their life. I'm gonna send that like a little comment. It's just gonna be a great little like when you're thinking of someone. It's just a really nice thing to send that little comment over there. So I hope you guys find someone. You can send that, too, as well. So, Dr Trebek, thanks for coming on today and talking to us about happy to satisfaction and offering some new perspectives on gold setting.
spk_0: 40:34
It's my pleasure. It's been a lot of fun.
spk_1: 40:36
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spk_0: 41:39
think my lucky stars are. Thank goodness or whatever you want to say that I have woken up again today, that I'm alive, that I have my health to whatever extent your health is at that time. There's always somebody who could be worse off that I have a roof over my head that I have a pillow under my head and so on and so forth. So I think, starting with gratitude exercise is extremely, extremely important. And then I I like to go into a period every morning of what I call silent solitude. After I've gotten up and out of bed, I'll sit quietly in a room and I'll just listen to my inner voice and I think that that's a very powerful exercise, probably not something that too many people D'oh! It's different than meditation, by the way. Although I think meditation is a valuable exercise in itself. Meditation tends to be more of a process of trying to quiet the mind. Where is the silent solitude exercise that I go through? Is an opportunity to listen to the mind, Um, which is a fascinating thing. And it's very difficult for a lot of people, especially when they first begin, because not everything that your inner voice has to say is always so pleasant. You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of fighting going on in there at times, So I think that's a powerful thing to do. And then following that as a morning routine. I like to work in a journal and start to write down some ideas and and set some goals. And I think gold setting is a very important, important process moving forward and personal development, that in growth and, um so that those three things are a great way to get started and get the mind sort of tuned up for the day. And then throughout the day, I like the idea of these positive affirmations. The most powerful of all, um, is I like myself. I like myself, and if you can get there. I love myself. I love myself. I love myself and I love my work. You know, I'm grateful for my family. I'm grateful for my health. I'm grateful for my job. I'm grateful for the amazing country that I live in. I'm grateful for freedom. I'm grateful for all of these opportunities. Whatever it is that you're grateful for, that don't You don't have to. It's not a mantra. You don't have to repeat what I'm saying. You have your own beliefs and feelings, but positive things feed your feed your subconscious, subconscious mind as much positive information as you possibly can. And you're you're well on your way to a better day and I think a much more fruitful and fulfilling life.
spk_1: 44:23
Cool. I'm gonna recap it for our listeners because sometimes when you're driving, you didn't hear everything you wanted to hear from that. So doctor to back said, Start your day with gratitude because when you are grateful, it's pretty impossible to be really unhappy. Also, silent solitude, which I think is cool because you said it's meditation is just about thoughts coming in and non judgmental, kind of pushing them aside, quieting the mind where a silent solitude is listening to your mind, and sometimes we don't have the opportunity to do that. I mean, I feel like I do that when I wash the dishes in. That's like my favorite. Now that all my kids are in school, it's my favorite part of them. The morning I like silence that is like that is the practice. Silence, solitude, just doing things and puttering around the house. I literally am thinking in that way, but you could do this in so many ways. I just liked how you talked about the difference between meditation listening to what's going on in the brain, because often we don't have a chance to listen to it because our life is noisy versus meditation, which is quiet in the brain. And then finally journaling because really, a lot of great things come from journaling. Anything you could do that so many ways. And then during the day I love her. You said positive affirmations, and the most valuable one was to say, I like myself and then turn it into I love myself and I just think there's a lot of that was really that, like put a little smile on my face, so that's great. So, Dr Doback, working people find you online,
spk_0: 45:41
they can find me at, um, chew back education dot com, which is, um, my education company where we have some resource Is there, um, in terms of, you know, weight loss? Resource is educational, resource is smoking cessation, and they'll be information coming up about hopefully some upcoming future seminars. And my books are there and things like that. And, uh, everybody can follow me on Instagram at John Hsu back m d or on Facebook at choo back Education. Yes, on Facebook. So those are the places for this for this area. And then, of course, anybody in need of varicose vein or we have to back medical dot com. That's it. That's the other limb of
spk_1: 46:26
just in case. You never know. You never know. You never know. It's a big It's actually pretty serious big thing. Um, it's C h u b a c k. Hey, I got a question. I'm on your website and your, um, little logo and it's an elephant. And why is it an elephant?
spk_0: 46:42
Oh, that's a great question. Thanks so much for asking I designed that little go. In fact, Well, one of my favorite things, you know, having taken on some big things in my life, like, you know, becoming a cardiovascular surgery. That was a big That was a big, big, um, choice and decision that I made at a very early age at the age of 18 or 19. My when I started college, and I knew that it would be a 15 year road to become a cardiac surgeon. So it's sort of like a decision like that is sort of like eating an elephant. So the old, the old adage says, How do you eat an elephant? The answer is one bite at a time. So if you notice that elephant in my logo has a bite taken out of his back, So that is what we're all doing, you know, in personal development, that's a big elephant. Eat. You're trying to get better. You're trying to grow as a human being. You try and be the best person you can be and the most productive and and so on itself where it's a big undertaking, so don't be overwhelmed by it. Just take it one bite at a time. 11 book at a time. One silent solitude session at a time. One I like myself at a time, one whatever at a time. And over the course of time they add up. And and then the point is, that kind of positive thinking will indeed without fail because it's it's the law of how the mind works will percolate through that psychic barrier. And it will recede your subconscious mind. You will feel differently and you will behave differently. And you will see better results in the areas that you you want to improve.
spk_1: 48:13
Well, Dr Hsu back Thank you so much for that. I'm really glad you asked that question as well. In Here's a call to action for listeners. I heard you say, How do you need an elephant? One bite at a time. And I thought, You know what? It's gonna be an ominous text message that I'm gonna send you a couple of friends that I know. We're very overwhelmed right now because they have told me some things going on in their life. I'm gonna send that like a little comment. It's just gonna be a great little like when you're thinking of someone. It's just a really nice thing to send that little comment over there. So I hope you guys find someone. You can send that, too, as well. So, Dr Trebek, thanks for coming on today and talking to us about happy dissatisfaction and offering some new perspectives on gold setting.
spk_0: 48:49
It's my pleasure. It's been a lot of fun.
spk_1: 48:51
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